Saturday, February 16, 2008

Brutal or Brutally Honest??

 
 
 
Yesterday I was sitting with some friends on the porch of the Rec hall enjoying the last warm rays of the day. 
Billie and Annie were there with their beagle, Queenie. 
Jasmine sniffed noses with Queenie and went off to find herself some shade. 
 
Billie & Annie decided it was time for dinner and left just as Adam was walking up the steps with a drinking glass containing ice cubes and "a brown liquid"  I assumed (hell, I know it was) was Scotch  : /
 
For the third time in as many days, he started telling me how unfair the insurance company was, he wasn't going to make any money, the lawyer and his ex-wife were getting money more than him. 
 
As he talked his voice grew louder.  He talked more about the picures & videoes taken of him at the RV Park tossing his daughter up in the air in the pool and pics of him at work carrying heavy objects at work.  He talked how he wanted to get out of his small trailer,  & how he was planning on taking his daughter "somewhere",  somewhere they couldn't be found.
 
I listened and told him he sure sounded depressed. 
He agreed and said he couldn't eat or do anything these days, these weeks, these months.
His voice grew even louder and he rambled on about how unfair it is.
 
 
 
 
 
Now, I am thinking....
 1 ~ YOU need a therapist
 2~ YOU want to do WHAT with your daughter??
3~ YOU are drinking way TOO much
 
 
I said to him, maybe you should not have returned to work.
His answer.....He had a daughter and child support and insurance to pay.
 
 
Then I said, "The way workman's comp looks at it.....if you can do more than what the Dr says you can do, they don't have to pay you.  *Actually, it's called fraud, but I didn't go there!
 
His answer:  I laid on my back for 8 months looking at nothing but the ceiling for 8 months.  There is nothing worse than waht I went thru.
 
 
Well, there is....people who have cancer and will die, people who need transplants & never get them, and people who have had injuries like his and have brain damage or are quadriplegics.  Some never wake up & end up in the hospitals I've worked in.  And these people are on ventilators for the duration of their lives.
 
Workman's Compensation doesn't pay you for pain and suffering, they evaluate what is happening now and from that, what your future disability will be. 
 
He said: I am sick of Florida, I just want to go back HOME (Chicago)!  I want to get out of that trailer I can't stand it here anymore.....they are trying to screw me!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
Now for the part I wish I could take back....or maybe not.
 
I looked at him and told him that he needed not to let it get to him.  He was getting way too upset about something out of his control.  He needs to relax and just realize that it is in the lawyers hands....the more money the lawyer gets for his client, the more money the lawyer gets, so he is out to push it.  "It is, what it is" and will just have to play itself out. 
 
Then, just because I am on a roll now.... I added, thatif he wanted to get the most out of the insurance people he should have followed Dr's orders and not done anything over what the Dr listed as his limitations. 
It fell on Deaf ears : /
 
Still I continued and told him I was insulted that he asked me if I would watch Heather while he went to the liquor store and bought a bottle.  It wasn't right! 
 
Then I added that he had a problem, one big problem, and the problem was what was in that glass!!  AND...when he chooses what is in that glass to my company, he really has a problem!
 
 
 
 
I turned back around watched the sun set for a few minutes more.  Said good bye and left.
 
This afternoon, Sue told me that he hubby had talked with Adam last night and he was obviously drunk.  She apologized to me for thinking we would be a good match.  Said she had heard a rumor that he drinking problem, but thought it was that, a rumor. 
 
I had also heard the rumor from the "Snoop Sisters" of the park.  There was an agruement one day between Adam and his EX  in the parking lot that they had witness last spring/early summer when the EX came to pick Heather up.  They were arguing LOUDLY about his drinking while the daughter was here ::sigh:: 
 
I had hope it was rumor from another source, also.
And it was one reason I took my time to considor going out with him. 
 
 
Now back to the title of my entry.....
 
Brutal....should I have kept my mouth shut?
Brutally Honest.....I've been told it's harsh at times, but I always tell it like it is.  Maybe it's not such an endearing quality.
 
 

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bethe
It may not be such an endearing quality, but it would have smoldered under the surface until it emerged at some point down the line and, possibly, in a much more brutal fassion.  I think you were right to let him know how you felt.  You were not unkind, just truthful.  You were not trying to hurt his feelings, just  administer a dose of reality and truth.  He may not thank you, but at least he knows he cannot snow you.  Hopefully, this will slow him down in the future if he thinks about heading for your door with a drink in his hand.
Sam

Anonymous said...

No I think you did the right thing. Sometimes its the brutaly honest times that get people to take a look at things.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes people need to hear the truth.  Most folks won't go there and the person lives in a fantasy world because no one has the guts to be honest.  I don't think you were brutal at all, he needs to hear this.  It sounds like he is just one big mess right now, that is shame.  As far as workers comp, he shouldn't have been tossing his daughter around....it doesn't take a rocket scientists to figure out they are really watching people these days.  Our carrier watches all of our employees (we don't have any say in it).  Too bad Art turned out to be so complicated.
xx
Lisa

Anonymous said...

I think he needed to hear that from you!!
Missie

Anonymous said...

I missed the alert on this one...
I don't think you were brutal at all.He needs a wake up call.Maybe when he's sober your words will come back to him and he'll take them to heart,sometimes that is what makes people turn  around.He needs to quit drinking around his child and quit 'for' his child...
huggies lil fox..........
~c~

Anonymous said...

If he didn't have a daughter, his drinking would be his own business. His drinking is blinding him. As his friend, you were doing the right thing telling him the truth. Everything you said is the stone-cold sober truth!!! If ONE of those tidbits gets through his head, he'd be better off!! You have dealt with enough of this in your past to KNOW that he has a drinking PROBLEM. I was afraid, as I read, that he would turn on you and get ugly with YOU, making you a scapegoat. Yeah, his life sucks at the moment, but continuing to drink when there's a little girl involved is only going to make things worse for him. We don't know much about the ex-wife, but if she's sober, she's probably a better parenting choice for Heather. Art needs to clean up his act and become the father that Heather needs. As for YOU, well, you certainly DON'T need to take on Art and all of his baggage. GEEZ.....I'm glad he didn't get ugly with ya!!

Hugs,
:) Carol

Anonymous said...

Answer to your Q. HELL NO, you have a voice and if he takes your time to ramble in a drinking state of mind then you sure as hell have & deserve the moment to tell him what a shit he is!

The truth may hurt for a moment but a lie with hurt for a lot longer. And silence can be a lie also.

So Bravo Tiny Dancer.....Brenda

Anonymous said...

Hey Bethe.........you said what needed saying......and deep down, he knows you are right!   He was having himself a "piety party"........and you were his guest....he was trying out on you his thoughts and hoping you'd agree with him.....but you were brave, and said exactly what was on your mind!  Good for you!!   Don't become one of his pawns Bethe........to many nice guys out there to settle for this.......  Hope you're feeling good sweetie, i'm thinking about u!!   Megghan

Anonymous said...

I think what you said to him was perfect.  Everyone should be so lucky have someone in their lives to tell them like it is.  A lot of times we get angry at people because we assume they know something they are doing is wrong or offensive and are just doing it anyway.  Then we just get madder and madder at them the longer it goes on and we tell everyone but the person we should be telling!!  I've made a point of asking friends of mine who are complaining about stuff that someone else is doing the following quesion, "Did you tell this to them?"
19 out of 20 times the answer is "NO."  
BRAVO, my palmy friend.  
You did good!
:)
MJ

Anonymous said...

Sometimes...you just cant stand to hear someone talk crap anymore...and you have to give them a big ole dose of reality. You had nothing to lose in the situation...I mean you and Art are history anyway...and for the best too in my opinion, so you dont really care what he thinks...so yeah...I would have told him what was on my mind too...and the truth hurts...if he doesnt like what he is, he should change. I think you did fine.

Anonymous said...

sounds like he needs to have some sense knocked into him and that's only what you did.  You are his friend and only you can tell him like it is!!  One day he will thank you for it xx

Jenny

http://journals.aol.co.uk/Jmoqueen/MyLife

Anonymous said...

I don't think anything you said was done maliciously and it sounds like he needs the voice of reason around~whether he listens or not!  Some may think brutal some may think brutally honest but neither here nor there it was necessary!
Gillie

Anonymous said...

JMO...I happen to think being honest is brutal but I think you did right.  HUGS  Chris